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Important Analysis of the Practical Limitations of the Lightning Network and the Future of Bitcoin

The Lightning Network has been growing rapidly in the past couple of months and there is lots of room for excitement and optimism.
Fast and cheap off-chain transactions finally seem within grasp, and with that comes the promise of Bitcoin potentially being able to function as global currency and achieve mainstream adoption, taking us all to the moon in the process.
All the good news recently got me wondering: how effective can the Lightning Network be as a scaling solution with the current block size? In other words, what's the absolute best case scenario for the LN supporting an active user base if blocks are kept under ~2MB.
So I looked up some basic stats on the Bitcoin blockchain and made some assumptions about how using the Lightning Network would translate to on-chain transaction volume for opening and closing payment channels.
What I found is that 2MB blocks can support approximately 5 million active LN users in the best case scenario. To support 100 million active LN users would require ~32MB blocks.
Basically, if on-chain scaling and the Lightning Network are the only two scaling solutions implemented, a significant block size increase is entirely inevitable in order for Bitcoin to achieve mass adoption even if the Lightning Network is a massive success.
Most people I've talked to seem to be in favor of either one solution or the other - on-chain scaling only or 2nd layers scaling only and keep the block size small. After this analysis, I've come to the conclusion that BOTH types of scaling will be necessary in the near future if Bitcoin is to achieve the adoption we are hoping for.
If you'd like to check the analysis in depth and see the assumptions I made plus the rational behind them, you can find them here: https://www.investinblockchain.com/bitcoin-lightning-network-block-size-analysis/
I'd love to hear some feedback on the analysis and my conclusions based on it, positive or negative are both welcome.
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
TL;DR: I believe that the Lightning Network can support at best a user base of 5 million active wallets given the current Bitcoin block size.

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1.44MB!!! This Newly Created Technology is Called "Floppy Disk" It is Bigger than A Current Block Size of Bitcoin.

1.44MB!!! This Newly Created Technology is Called submitted by KingofKens to btc [link] [comments]

GMax is talking that the current 1M block size limit is too large, and "the recent improvements" in bitcoin is just a plan to do something to kill(limit) Miners or profit blockstream?

As seen in red circled text http://m.imgur.com/rT4eKR0
"the block size limit was set too large" Amazing, 1M is too large!!!
"this created outsized returns for large consolidations." it looks like he is very jealous of the profit of miners
"More recent improvements have caught things up a bit but it will take a while for the damage to equalize out." how to equalize out? Here are the only two methods I can figure out: 1, Via " recent improvements", we let blockstream profit more or equally compared with miners, this is kind of "equalize out", 2, Via " recent improvements", we try to kill big miners or limit the profit of those miners
GMax(Blockstream) is actually talking about how to divide the cake before making the cake big
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At the current block size limit of 1 MB, no Bitcoin-based protocol can handle more than 20M users per month

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Current state of Bitcoin, or why it was completely irresponsible not to increase the block size limit before implementing other solutions.

Current state of Bitcoin, or why it was completely irresponsible not to increase the block size limit before implementing other solutions. submitted by olivierjanss to btc [link] [comments]

Dear mods: let's either get rid of the Scaling Bitcoin stickied thread and allow block size discussion in other threads, or restrict everything to the stickied thread. The current system frustrates everybody.

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"Bitcoin block size already is at the necessary level and can be increased at anytime by anyone. currently 96% of..." [-10]

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I asked Viabtc (Pool with 10 % of global hashing power) why they are not mining BIP109 blocks. They replied: "We need some mechanism to dynamically adjust the block size limit. Hence, in my view, Bitcoin Unlimited’s protocol is more appropriate at the current stage."

I asked Viabtc (Pool with 10 % of global hashing power) why they are not mining BIP109 blocks. They replied: submitted by todu to btc [link] [comments]

Bitcoin Block Sizes: An Illustrated Overview (and why current scaling proposals are All Wrong)

Bitcoin Block Sizes: An Illustrated Overview (and why current scaling proposals are All Wrong) submitted by goldcakes to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

/r/Bitcoin on the current block size

/Bitcoin on the current block size submitted by alotufo to btc [link] [comments]

What is the current size of the bitcoin block chain?

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Will Bitcoin Block Size Reduction Argument Cause Another Crypto Conflict? (current BTC/USD price is $3637.38722094)

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Quick Question, If Bitcoin Cash has just doubled the size of blocks, does that mean once Bitcoin Cash get double the throughput of current Bitcoin there will be the same fee's and processing time?

EDIT: Sorry guys I had it all wrong, I thought it was 2MB blocks for bitcoin cash, thanks for clearing that up it makes much more sense now
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Bitcoin Breakthrough Claims Block Size Increase Possible Without Hard Fork (current BTC/USD price is $6607.64001552)

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Keeping the block size as 1 MB won't save centralization. Neither will increasing it to 2 MB. That's because bitcoin in it's current state is doomed to inevitable centralization. Only new research can stop this.

As we can see, whether or not we change the block size does not affect centralization in the long run, since bitcoin naturally scales at a quadratic rate in the number of users. Therefore we need new research if we want to solve this. The question is simply what option delays centralization the longest.
Lightning network should buy us plenty of time, allowing bitcoin transactions to be processed faster and in larger quantities than any currently existing payment system, but it still doesn't solve the intrinsic quadratic nature of the block chain, so I'm thinking eventually we will need to invent something not based on block chains if we want to keep decentralization.
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What is the current average size of a bitcoin transaction, sent by a node (not the size inside the block)

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Bitcoin.com takes just 3.9 seconds to load despite being 7x bigger than the current max block size. https://t.co/C6SM541Bco"

Bitcoin.com takes just 3.9 seconds to load despite being 7x bigger than the current max block size. https://t.co/C6SM541Bco submitted by MemoryDealers to btc [link] [comments]

Current state of Bitcoin, or why it was completely irresponsible not to increase the block size limit before implementing other solutions.

Current state of Bitcoin, or why it was completely irresponsible not to increase the block size limit before implementing other solutions. submitted by olivierjanss to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

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Bitcoin Cash Hard Fork Increases Block Size, Reactivates Op Nodes (current BTC/USD price is $8477.33)

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What is the current average size of a bitcoin transaction, sent by a node (not the size inside the block) /r/Bitcoin

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Bitcoin Cash (BCH) has a very low rate of adoption, and block sizes currently average less than 100 KB, making the… https://t.co/UIiQxwPMG2 - Crypto Insider Info - Whales's

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